![]() There were ten or twelve tweets going back and forth and my understanding is that, in the context of all of those, she was misgendering a particular person. GADDE: But, again, it’s the context of, I don’t have all the tweets in front of me. GADDE: That was one of many tweets that was part of providing context, and that was actually the second strike, is my understanding. POOL: She responded with, “Men aren’t women though.” And that was her first, in the series of events, that’s what got her the suspension and the warning. ROGAN: What if it’s in the context of the conversation? What if she’s saying that I don’t think that trans women should be allowed in these female spaces, to make decisions for women? And then this person’s arguing and she says, “A woman is biologically female, you are never going to be a woman.” If you’re taking those viewpoints and you’re targeting them at a specific person in a way that reflects your intent to abuse and harass them – GADDE: I think that’s right Joe, and I think what I’m trying to say is that it’s not that you can’t have those viewpoints. We have a divide between the conservative estimation of what’s happening, and then the definition that’s the liberal definition. This is something where you have to acknowledge that there’s an understanding that if someone is a trans person, we all agree to consider them a woman, and to think of them as a woman, to talk to them and address them with their preferred name and their preferred pronouns. This is not a clear cut … this is not something like you could say, water is wet, you know, this is dry. ROGAN: Right, but it is an ideology, right? If she’s saying a man is never a woman, if that’s what she’s saying, and then biologically she’s correct, we obviously have a debate here. GADDE: We have a rule that attempts to address what we have perceived to be instances of abuse and harassment. ROGAN: So, you have an argument between two people, and you have a rule that enforces only one side of the ideology, and you’ve banned only one of those people. And this individual’s actually bringing a lawsuit against her in Canada as well. … My understanding, and I don’t have the tweet-by-tweet the way that I did for the others, but my understanding is that she was warned multiple times for misgendering an individual that she was in an argument with. GADDE: But she was warned multiple times. ![]() ![]() Would you explain – because you explained it to me – what did she actually do? ROGAN: Well, she was banned permanently, but let’s be clear about what happened. GADDE: Again, it depends on the context on the platform. POOL: If Meghan Murphy, who is … a radical feminist who refuses to use the transgender pronouns, if she’s in an argument with a trans person over whether or not they should be allowed in sports or in biologically female spaces, and she refuses to use their pronoun because of her ideology, you’ll ban them. Here’s the exchange among Pool, Gadde, Rogan, and Dorsey regarding misgendering, deadnaming, and feminist Meghan Murphy (pertinent portion in bold): This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals. We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. ![]()
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